Friday, August 29, 2014

Allterco Pte Ltd is a cheating scams company !

SMS Scam Contest complaints

Witness and Victim Complaint
Click here to see all the witness and victim complaint:

M1, Singtel and StarHub maybe is a related mobile company of making this kind of Scam money.

( Teracomm Asia Pacific Pte Ltd ) is a ( Scams Company )
(  Allterco Pte Ltd )
26A Temple Street, 058565 Singapore
Email: office@teracomm.com.sg
This company is a cheating scams.
From: Singapore

Asia Pacific:
26A Temple Street, 058565 Singapore 
Email: office@teracomm.com.sg

IDA and Case not interested to this respond, do you think there are also related ???

To understand how M1, Singtel and StarHub related to this scam company making this kind of scam money.
 Go to this link to see the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9MQAfh-bCE&feature=plcp
This company is a cheating scams using this web page (www.ggole.com )

On the Pop-up ads: ( www.ggole.com ) On my computer Internet Explorer.
This company is cheating scam on me about give aways to Win a ipad to join the game on this 7545 4 SMS ( Time: 11:23pm ) !!!
Before I join the game, They didn't say anything to me will charged $3.00 per SMS on the reply !!!
Nobody can understand this kind of shot fonts ( SGD3 ) that reply me.
And no ( dollar sign ) show on this SMS !!!

Detail of this SMS question game that show in my phone:
SPEED Question for 1000 pts – HURRY, u have 3min remaining! What is the calling code for Singapore? 1= +66 2= +65. TXT 1 or 2 to 75454! SGD3

I have check my total SMS on this no. 7545 4 is only 26 SMS only.
But telephone operator of this Teracomm Asia Pacific Pte Ltd company telling lies I have 70 SMS will charged me $200.
And did call them on this number: 6631 9331 not to charged me of this Scam, but the company don’t want to do anything about it.
It show many people fall into this Scam too, on Singtel, StarHub and M1.
I have complaining to M1 operators no use, and M1 Operators CANNOT DO ANYTHING!!
The government laws must look into this case to answer the public of Singapore.
Maybe this is a related crime between all the mobile company of making this kind of Scam money.
These are as good as daylight robbery. What if those uncle and aunties dunno how to read bills, alot of them will be con!!
I really don't want to pay for this kind of SMS Scam.
This is my complaint. I have call M1 and IDA about this too.
I’ll make this case as the worlds wide biggest news.

THE PROFILE DETAIL OF THE CHEATING SCAMS COMPANY IN SINGAPORE:  TERACOMM ASIA PACIFIC PTE LTD / ALLTERCO PTE LTD




Officer Agents Address











You could win an iPad, so start bidding!


Hot electronics are commonly used to entice victims into a shakedown. A pop-up ad on the computer invites the user to bid on an iPad, laptop PC, or wide-screen TV, but the user must include the user cell-phone number to play. Submitting the the user to bid sends a text message to the user cell phone that, whether the user respond or not, may authorize an unwanted $9.99 a month or more subscription to some useless service. The charge gets tacked onto the user cell-phone bill, where the user are unlikely to notice it.

Cramming. The auction is smoke and mirrors designed to capture user cell-phone number to place unauthorized charges on the user bill, a practice called cramming. Unlike numbers for landlines, cell-phone numbers aren’t published in directories, so scammers must be underhanded to get it.

Cell-phone companies ( IDA, SingTel, StarHub & M1 ),  which can collect a few dollars or more commissions per charge, claim that wireless cramming isn’t a problem. But we found 480,000 alleged cell-cramming victims in one case, and in 2011 a Senate committee investigation concluded that landline and cell-phone crammers could be fleecing $2 billion a year from consumers.

“We have multiple wireless-cramming investigations under way,” says Vladeck at the FTC, “and we’re quite quickly seeing the migration of cramming from landline to wireless phones.”

The user demand refunds from the cell phone provider that the user has been crammed. Why the wireless and landline carriers never block all third-party billing to user account, and why the previous bills don't stop cramming charges ?
There have been multitudes of reports of Teracomm Asia Pacific Pte Ltd / Allterco Pte Ltd scamming from SingTel, StarHub & M1 users in Singapore.
Might I ask why even after so much pain that so many users are going through, why is this third party not blacklisted from going through your network and blocked from charging people?!

Since the IDA, SingTel, StarHub & M1 management does not want to do anything about it and refuses to waiver the charges, The user have no choice but to accept this third-party's unreasonable "kindness" of partial waiver.

SingTel, Starhub & M1 and was told that is only a bill collector. How disappointing when they are in the know that their business partners are doing unscrupulous business with complaints from people like us and yet they want to take an ostrich approach. We should bring this up to the opposition party to protect Singaporeans about this matter if our present PAP government cannot protect us. But please, for the sake of other customers of SingTel, StarHub, M1 Mobile who are potential victims, please stop this from happening in the future.

It seems that this co. has a neverending abyss of complaints from consumers who have been hoodwinked into something they never wanted.
Yes they were keen on the prize, or curious about the competition. But no, they did not want to subscribe to some lame excuse to overcharge users for useless sms trivia.

I wonder how business owners like this live with continually ripping off their customers (willing ones at that).

I agreed to Veela if the telecom operator is not even bother and not helping on this issue for the customer then how could we trust them. I am also wondering where do this stupid company get all our mobile number from? Is either they get our number from our telecom operator who selling them and earn commission on every charges or someone in the telecom company making some extra income on selling our number to them.

I have make an official complaint to Infocomm Development Authority of Singapore, Consumers Association of Singapore, Ministry of Communications and Information, Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau & PAP Government ( Minister Yaacob Ibrahim ).

This is an stupid loophole policy of Infocomm Development Authority of Singapore created some big loopholes that criminals of this company to scam our singaporean money.

Can you look into this matter urgently to help our fellow singaporean to break this crime case !!!

This is very obvious of internal corruption of Infocomm Development Authority of Singapore approved all the mobile companies ( SingTel, StarHub & M1 ), which can collect a few dollars or more commissions per charge, claim that wireless cramming is not a problem. The Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau should check on this case, To find out who's is the real 'culprit' behind this cheating scams policy constructions !

That's Daylight Robbery and many victim got conned by Teracomm Asia Pacific Pte Ltd / Allterco Pte Ltd. I hope justice will come one day.




Dr Yaacob Ibrahim
Assoc Prof Dr Yaacob Ibrahim
(Minister for Communications and Information
and Minister-in-charge of Muslim Affairs)

I hope our Communications MPs Dr Yaacob Ibrahim are fully aware of this kind of sms scam of ( Teracomm Asia Pacific Pte Ltd / Allterco Pte Ltd ) is a cheating scams company, scamming our singaporean money !
After so many police report on this scam and IDA, Case and CPIB also no response !!! Singapore government don't want to do anything on this matter about this ( Teracomm Asia Pacific Pte Ltd / Allterco Pte Ltd ) cheating scams company ! M1, Singtel and StarHub also related mobile company of making this kind of scam money too. I think we should bring this matter to Opposition MPs in Parliament ( The Workers' Party ) to protect singaporean about this matter.

Why the authorities never  put a stop to them once and for all ? Is our PAP Sleeping not doing anything to solve this problem ????

ALLTERCO-ATLC SCAM






http://eakky.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/sms-to-winrather-it-is-to-get-conned/#comment-559

SMS to Win?…Rather it is to get conned….

I fell for the oldest trick in the book.
No such thing as a free lunch, in this case, winning a lucky draw by just sending an sms.
pop-up window attracted me to this cool MacBook Air prize.
In huge print were the simple instructions to just SMS “AIR” to 72233. So I did without first reading the fine print “terms and conditions”.
I received a thank you sms, wishing me good luck in winning the MacBook Air, then the next sentence made my eyes roll. Another set of questions to pick between choice A or B, and the sinker, “Text A or B to 72233, & u can win, $4 CHARGED
And suddenly another sms just came to me, “Welcome to Trivia! It’s ur chance to win cool prizes. Info: http://www.wixawin.com/6571 3999, subscription service max 10q per month $4/q….”
Panic gripped me….how much have they charged me so far already….and it goes straight to my mobile bill….
I raced to the original pop-up window and looked at the fine print:
Wixawin is not affiliated with, sponsored by or endorsed by any of the listed products or retailers. Trademarks, service marks, logos, (including, without limitation, the individual names of products and retailers) are the property of their respective owners. This is an ongoing subscription service until user quits. This service operates according to the Singapore code of practice for SMS services. By sending anSMS to 72233, you acknowledge that you have read and understood the ‘Terms & Conditions’ and agree to be bound by these ‘Terms & Conditions’. To stop service? Text STOP to 72233. Subscription: Maximum 10 SMS questions per month, S$4 per question. Competition ends 31-12-’08. Age: 18+ only  obtain bill payer’s permission. Helpdesk: 6571 3999. Technical Service Provider: Sybase 365 Pte Ltd.
Gosh. It really pissed me off.
I immediate sent “STOP” to the same number again in case more “trivia” (but expensive) questions pop up in my mobile.
Tell me who in his right mind likes to pay $4 for a trivia sms question, subject to paying $40 per month for ten of these. I might as well set up a company to do that and collect such easy  (fool’s) money….
So and So Company will be hearing from me very soon when I receive my next mobile bill and find out any billings due to this incident.
I will definitely go to CASE (Consumers Association of Singapore) and not let it go so easily like the last time I found an MP3 subscription on my mobile bill when I did not knowingly subscribe to such a service.
Must be that contest SMS I sent to take part in some radio lucky draw.
No more sms for competitions or lucky draws for me anymore. Never ever!

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-693289



Hi Singtel,
I have just received a bill shock recently that I was charged $130 for some Premium Rate Service that I did not subscribe to. The number in question is subscribed to my name, but is being used by my son.
Now, before shrugging it off that it is something that my son unknowingly did, I double checked his phone messages and saw that it was unsolicited. There was not outgoing messages, only incoming (my son only uses whatsapp, no sms at all).
The name of the company on the bill is AllTerco ATLC. I called one of your customer service staff on Saturday 21/12/2013 and was informed that nothing can be done on your end to waive off the fee as it is charged by a third party.
The customer service officer said she would contact the third party and get them to call me. They called today 23/12/2013 and I explained to them the whole situation, she said she would call me back after speaking with her management.
She called me back and said the management would only waiver half of the charge, which she told me totalled $150. She tried to explain that it was solicited even after I had tried to say on my end that it was not. I told her I would check with my service provider first and call her back afterwards. She gave me a number to call back.
I double checked with one of your staff and found out multiple smses had been sent from the phone, but none of them showed up in the outbox! It may have been a malicious app or the number could have been hacked, I do not know. The only thing I know is, it was not consciously solicited.
The strange thing is, the company that called me is Chapamobile Pte Ltd, not ALLTERCO ATLC. The number they called me with did not tally with the number that i was given to call me back. The number they gave me to call them back was +65 66319198, but the number on my phone when I received their call was +65 31062340. I checked the number and it was for another company, MultiRational Pte Ltd, that does business solutions. I also checked that Chapamobile is located in Hong Kong.
The gist of this is, doesn't it all seem like a scam? If you check the web, there have been multitudes of reports of ALLTERCO ATLC scamming users from all over the world, not just SG. And not only Singtel users.
Might I ask why even after so much pain that so many users are going through, why is this third party not blacklisted from going through your network and blocked from charging people?!
Since your management does not want to do anything about it and refuses to waiver my charges, I have no choice but to accept this third-party's unreasonable "kindness" of partial waiver.
If you don't want to do anything for me, it's fine. But please, for the sake of other customers of Singtel Mobile who are potential victoms, please stop this from happening in the future.


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  1. Hi Kwang and all
    I was charged $798 for the SMS game by Teracomm Asia Pacific thru' Starhub.
    I have approached Starhub and they have written in to Teracomm to explain my bill.
    I dont want to pay for this kind of scam!
    Please advise as to how to resolve such scam.
    Thanks.
  2. Same here, i also got same issue - bill of 600$, no intimation and nothing - i don't want to pay bill for such scam - govt must do something
  1. Hi Kwang,

    I have the same problem now. Would you be able to share how you were able to resolve this problem please???
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    1. Just call me at: 97627078 Kwang
      Will tell you what to do .

  2. iam a victim too. i am still taking up the issue with starhub who admitted leaking my number to them vijust2@gmail.com
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    1. Just call me at: 97627078 Kwang
      Will tell you what to do .
    2. After so many police report on this scam and IDA, Case and CPIB also not interested !!! Singapore government don't want to do anything on this matter about this ( Teracomm Asia Pacific Pte Ltd ) cheating scams company ! M1, Singtel and StarHub also related mobile company of making this kind of scam money too. Seem Singapore Communications MP never do anything on this scam matter !!! Do you think Singapore government also related with this kind of scam ??? I think we should bring this matter to Opposition MPs in Parliament ( The Workers' Party ) to protect singaporean about this matter.

      http://www.facebook.com/pages/Teracomm-Daylight-Robbery/311418038949613

  3. Hi Kwang,

    My dad is a victim too and was charged $204 and I have tried calling them but to no avail. Is there anyway we can publicise this on newspaper so people will be aware of this Teracomm Asia SMS scam?

    And if you happen to resolve this problem, can you share how? Btw, I am a Singtel user.

    Thanks!

    Dee
  4. I totally agree with you this fraud company sent automated SMS to me 5 SMS and charged $15. When I called Starhub they said they can't do much about it so I called Teracomm but the girl whom I inquired about the amount she hung up the phone during the conversation.

    akino69
  5. I so naive to response to this stupid survey and was shocked to see the 1st sms to me that I have initiated the questions and will be charged $3 each. I called StarHub but they refer me to the company, Teracomm. I was very pissed when the girl from teracomm said the disclaimer stated very clearly. But I did not see it only when they send me stupid question again with $3 behind. How can StarHub/M1/ Singtel not to do anything or IDA. They are the one who issue the short code to these company.
  6. Hi all, this Teracomm is still advertising in banner ads etc. and I nearly fell into it and thank goodness this site helped me avoid a financial scam. I know how to pursue this type of matter so if you would like to find out more, please let me know.
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    1. i book speaker's corner and inviting the media to cover us -- can you come? 21 July 2012 at 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM....what language can you speak and can you speak to the media?

      please join the conversations at https://www.facebook.com/pages/Teracomm-Daylight-Robbery/311418038949613


      thanks!

  7. Yes... it was just happened to me recently, and the girl named IVY - sounded like a philipion was very rude and don't care to even entertain... and claimed that I should know what I did myself.. I think they are just too RUDE and thinking that no one can do anything to them. You guys were right, there were no charges applied in the beginning, only after 1 or 2 sms, then suddenly found the $3 charges there. and the first time response of "WIN" was $9. I think should lodge a Police report and let the authority check on them... this is too much of a CHEATING to Consumer.. the other way is to report to consumer rights Department??? @Rykel, any suggestion how to deal with it? We need to stop them before more people get cheated!!!!
  8. Help! My mum-in-law is a victim of Teracomm ipad scam and her bill is 1700+! Starhub emailed her that they are just a billing agent and not involved in this. Her bill is the biggest amount I have read in all the forums so far. Can someone offer advice on how to get the charges waived?
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    1. i book speaker's corner and inviting the media to cover us -- can you come? 21 July 2012 at 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM....what language can you speak and can you speak to the media?

      please join the conversations at https://www.facebook.com/pages/Teracomm-Daylight-Robbery/311418038949613


      thanks!
  9. Same here got bill of 570$ from Teracomm thru starhub and reported to IDA and now waiting IDA reply
  10. thanks for speaking with me.

    Singtel told us can bar Premium Rate Service by calling *25625 and responding to the SMS. It's a free singtel service.

    We should band together to bring Teracomm down and other scammers down. I booked 7 July 2012 from 10 AM Speaker's Corner at Hong Lim Park to talk about this. Can I have your support? Please reply to this.
  11. M1, Singtel and StarHub is a related mobile company of making this kind of scam money.

    IDA and Case also not interested to respond.
    After so many complaints, No respond from singapore government also.
    Do you think they are also related with this scam also ?

    To understand how they are related scam, go to this wed link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9MQAfh-bCE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
  12. All this people is the members of ( Teracomm Asia Pacific Pte Ltd ) is a ( Scams Company ) link:

    http://www.facebook.com/damienyeong

    More news coming out soon !!!
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    1. i did not pay and kept fighting, involved IDA, Starhub and now finally i got a mail stating that all charges will be waived so keep fighting.
  13. I received a billing statement from StarHub dated 3/8/12. One of the charges was "Premium Services" by Teracomm Asia Pacific Pte Ltd for "20Dwlds" at $3.00 each, total $60.0000.
    Teracomm Asia Pacific Pte Ltd said that they have been sending me weekly reminders (via SMS which I never read) about my subscription, links to download, and instruction on how to STOP the subscription. Since I nenver opened their SMSs, how would I know that I was being charged? Why should I pay for any service which I have never selected any download or product? Wendy
  14. Beware! This bunch of Bulgaria crooks have changed name to ALLTERCO. I have spent the whole morning talking to Singtel, CASE and IDA, but not much help also. Good luck to consumers!!
  15. DO NOT PAY TO TERACOMM -
    I repeat !
    DO NOT PAY TO TERACOMM -

    I HAD MY COMMANDOS SURROUNDED AND SURVEY THEIR TEMPLE STREET OFFICE ! THE MOMENT IS RIPE, MY COMMANDOS WILL WIPE OUT THIS TERROR CELL !
    1. i book speaker's corner and inviting the media to cover us -- can you come? 21 July 2012 at 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM....what language can you speak and can you speak to the media?

      please join the conversations at https://www.facebook.com/pages/Teracomm-Daylight-Robbery/311418038949613


      thanks!
    2. Went onto wwww.inrent.com.au (legit company associated with renting goods through Retravision etc) to see if I could log in to to see how long I have before I can upgrade a couple of items and was directed to do a survey for my local are. 3 simple questions; are you male/female, how often have you visited this site, and do you think you will visit this site again in the future. Then on submission, was offered a prize, an Iphone or an Ipad. Luckily I read below about signing up for messages, so much per week blah blah, blah. Checked the terms and conditions and saw no reference to Australia at all, let alone Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria etc. It also used the term 'cell phone' - good giveaway its probably a US company or some other overseas company. Decided to do a google search for TERACOMM ASIA PACIFIC to look for scam info (had a gut feeling) - and well, here I am....!

      Just surprised though that a legitimate financial company based in Australia such as InRent would hire them to do a survey. Or maybe they didn't and it was a spambot? Hmmm really am confused, but thought I would add this experience on here anyway.

      PS The effort I went through to try all the methods of publishing, then having to create a blog profile (something I won't really be using), getting a few error pages, switching to Google, and then having to create an account with them was far more time consuming and an irritating annoyance than the Teracomm site. All this just to post. Luckily I have a habit of selecting highlight/copy before posting or else I would have had to type this out around 6 times. Should be open to guests to comment rather than the rigmaroll (sp?) of having to create account/s just to make one post and forget I have them after this.
    3. Thank you Kwang for your posting on this. I got con by Terracomm on 14 July 2012 in exactly the same way you described it. Mine was about 150 sms which I think was local sms and should be covered by Starhub since I have free 500 local sms. Time taken for being conned is about 30 minutes. I was asked to pay $189 through Starhub. How can a local usage be charged for such a high fee. It's daylight robbery. Like yourself, I dont want to pay for this kind of scam. I wrote to Starhub and was told that Starhub is only a bill collector. How disappointing when they are in the know that their business partners are doing unscrupulous business with comlpains from people like us and yet they want to take an ostrich approach. I went to the police station to make a report today but was told that it's about billing. So not appropriate place to report. I have yet to see an MP about this. But you are absolutely right that we should bring this up to the opposition party to protect Singaporeans about this matter if our present govt cannot protect us.

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      1. The OPPOSITION PARTY - WORKERS PARTY should be good in handling this. WP love to address to citizens woes - even it is not so significant!

        A heart that concern all BIG & small matters !
    4. The worst part was I didn't even know what the sms was all about as I was also distracted by the fast incoming questions. But I was rendered defenseless when Terracom pointed out that I was informed of the rates through the sms. What can I say! Anyway, I decided to terminated my giro payment and pay only my monthly mobile subscription. I don't know what Starhub and Terracomm are going to do. Will wait and see what happens.
    5. Just receive a bill from Singtel and to my surprise I had been conned also but this becomes funny on my case and I had to lodge a complaint yet.
      The subscrition for Singtel that I have was for my mobile phone that is for home use, I had a separate line for my own use, my home mobile line was locked for data and therefore nobody can used it except for voice call.
      SURPRISINGLY! I WAS BILLED FOR 29 DOWNLOADS. THERE WAS NOT EVEN AN SMS DONE AS DESCRIBED ON THE POST ABOVE! How could I be charge for downloads when I dont have any data active.
    6. Beware! This bunch of Bulgaria crooks have changed name to ALLTERCO. I have spend the whole morning talking to Singtel, CASE and IDA, but not much help also. Good luck to consumers!!
    7. I am a VICTIM too !

      I hate TERACOMM ! If I am a skilled hacker, I'll hacker the SHIT out of their website! One bro mentioned, TERACOMM is able to collaborate with SINGTEL, M1, STARHUB .. it goes to show their influence! Scary thou, like some kind of DARK N POWERFUL SYNDICATED EVIL-BRO !
    8. TERACOMM is global !

      However, seems like they only got complaint be Singaporeans only !
      Ha ha ! Teracomm, you come to the wrong place to cheat !

      You get nothing but shoot !

      1. Went onto wwww.inrent.com.au (legit company associated with renting goods through Retravision etc) to see if I could log in to to see how long I have before I can upgrade a couple of items and was directed to do a survey for my local are. 3 simple questions; are you male/female, how often have you visited this site, and do you think you will visit this site again in the future. Then on submission, was offered a prize, an Iphone or an Ipad. Luckily I read below about signing up for messages, so much per week blah blah, blah. Checked the terms and conditions and saw no reference to Australia at all, let alone Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria etc. It also used the term 'cell phone' - good giveaway its probably a US company or some other overseas company. Decided to do a google search for TERACOMM ASIA PACIFIC to look for scam info (had a gut feeling) - and well, here I am....!

        Just surprised though that a legitimate financial company based in Australia such as InRent would hire them to do a survey. Or maybe they didn't and it was a spambot? Hmmm really am confused, but thought I would add this experience on here anyway.

        PS The effort I went through to try all the methods of publishing, then having to create a blog profile (something I won't really be using), getting a few error pages, switching to Google, and then having to create an account with them was far more time consuming and an irritating annoyance than the Teracomm site. All this just to post. Luckily I have a habit of selecting highlight/copy before posting or else I would have had to type this out around 6 times. Should be open to guests to comment rather than the rigmaroll (sp?) of having to create account/s just to make one post and forget I have them after this.
      2. M1, Singtel and StarHub is a related mobile company of making this kind of scam money.
        To understand how they are related scam, go to this wed link:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9MQAfh-bCE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
      3. IDA and Case also not interested to respond.
        After so many complaints, No respond from singapore government also.
        Do you think they are also related with this scam also ?
      4. Thank you Kwang for your posting on this. I got con by Terracomm on 14 July 2012 in exactly the same way you described it. Mine was about 150 sms which I think was local sms and should be covered by Starhub since I have free 500 local sms. Time taken for being conned is about 30 minutes. I was asked to pay $189 through Starhub. How can a local usage be charged for such a high fee. It's daylight robbery. Like yourself, I dont want to pay for this kind of scam. I wrote to Starhub and was told that Starhub is only a bill collector. How disappointing when they are in the know that their business partners are doing unscrupulous business with comlpains from people like us and yet they want to take an ostrich approach. I went to the police station to make a report today but was told that it's about billing. So not appropriate place to report. I have yet to see an MP about this. But you are absolutely right that we should bring this up to the opposition party to protect Singaporeans about this matter if our present govt cannot protect us.

        Same here, i also got same issue in August bill of 795$, after receiving my phone bill,I was shocked and didn't understand why Starhub charged me such amount.Then I called to Terracomm and got a contact with one lady.But she is very rude and didn't explain properly. After finished my call,I received one message from them which is " U've been removed from our marketing data base.U've got 0pts.Winners will be notified at end of promotional period.Terms? playmo.sg. Help?66319331".Actually I couldn't pay bill for such scam .

        November 3, 2012 1:24 AM
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        1. The OPPOSITION PARTY - WORKERS PARTY should be good in handling this. WP love to address to citizens woes - even it is not so significant!

          A heart that concern all BIG & small matters !
          1. DO NOT PAY TO TERACOMM -
            I repeat !
            DO NOT PAY TO TERACOMM -

            I HAD MY COMMANDOS SURROUNDED AND SURVEY THEIR TEMPLE STREET OFFICE ! THE MOMENT IS RIPE, MY COMMANDOS WILL WIPE OUT THIS TERROR CELL !
          2. 44 RESPONSES TO “SMS TO WIN?…RATHER IT IS TO GET CONNED….

            1. hey… i suffer the same fate too.
              I was conned $12..
              The ads were very misleading..
              Is they anything we can do about this?
            2. hey, 1 more thing, if u open the popup ads write… it automatically resize the browers size to cover the terms & conditions stated below. Leaving on the mapbook air ads on top. This is very obvious a setup.
              It they anyway tru law to bring that company down?
            3. First things first.
              Never take part in any sms contest. They use data mining to collect your mobile numbers for future marketing purposes.
              For this company, the only thing to be done is to make an official complaint, perhaps to Consumers Association of Singapore (CASE) or the newspapers.
              Then they will most likely be warned and told not to repeat such misleading advertisement/promotions again. That’s about all.
              Best thing to do is to warn everybody you know.
              I hardly take part in any contests, written, online or sms. Stopped believing in them already.
              Eakky
            4. Sam Gouding 
              I also got conned into doing this.
              I am not at all happy about it. Money is too precious to be robbed from us by these capricious dirty tricks.
              I too did not see the terms and conditions at the bottom of the page. They were not at all prominent, possibly even covered up by another window, and I would never have submitted my details had I known the cost. I will be very wary in future.
              I intend to take this further. I live in the UK, and hopefully people I contact in our watchdog groups will be able to make this illegal here and perhaps get my money back. It is not worth a great deal of effort, because of the smalll ammount of money involved, which is probably what the fraudsters rely upon, but on principle I fully intend to make their life difficult and champion the rights of others in the process.
              Onwards and upwards dear friends!!
            5. Hi,
              Got my 2 sons bill last month & there will several billings for “bill on behalf services “( company like Sybase365 etc ). Argued with SingTel that if they don’t know such companies then why are their own clients been billed. Good thing, they said we can de-activate all such services for my sons mobile numbers.
              I am concerned because I read some other websites that the bills can run to the hundreds.
              I hope our Telco authority will wake up to curb such practices – these companies are just preying on innocent users!
              Just wanted to know …what is the outcome with CASE!
              Regards
              Sam Wong
            6. overclk2000 
              I kena conned too. I called up my operator and they told me to call the Sybase 365 Pte Ltd. I did and gave them an earful. They relented and agreed to waive the charges except for the initial $4.
              What I’m going to do next is:
              – cancel my GIRO arrangement with my operator and dispute the $4 charge. Its a hassle but I believe this is one way for the operators to take notice of scams like these.
              – report to CASE.
            7. Suthagaran 
              I also suffering becos of this, I charged for 20$, but I sent only one SMS. I don’t know whts this service about.
              I am really confused.
            8. Good and bad news from my end.
              Bad news – My wife’s Singtel mobile got billed $20 from Sybase365 for “TMG Services” for the duration from 3/Jun/08 till 19/Jun/08. We’ve no idea what this TMG Services is for and what we’ve done was input the mobile number online in a lucky draw for notebook. Only 1 SMS was sent.
              I’ve tried calling Sybase365 hotline 68384430 as stated on Singtel’s bill but was informed by a voice recording stating that the customer service line had been changed to 65713999.
              Good news – I’ve called Singtel 1688 billing enquiries hotline and the CSO said will waive off the $20 after stating my wife’s case to her.
              Let’s see if the next bill from Singtel really waived off that $20.
            9. Forgot to add that nobody pick up the phone for that Sybase365 customer service hotline 65713999.
              Maybe others that got conned can have a better luck getting through?
            10. Crap, i just kenna on my phone bill. Called up starhub and they gave me the same info on the company and contact number. Immediately called them up to cancel and demand that they refund the money they conned form me. At first they kept pushing the blame on me saying the terms and conditions are stated there but i kept arguing until they decide to refund 50% of the amount but i kept going and eventually they agreed to only bill me for the $4 initial charge, which is alot already for a stupid sms. I’m hoping to see my refund in the next bill but regardless of the outcome, i’m definitely reporting this CASE.
            11. i’ve called them up also but they only agree to refund 50%, any advice on what I could do next?
            12. Sherry Teo lay teen 
              Hi,
              Sybase is really a cheat! I also get conned.
              The screen pop out of nowhere, and there is no statement that stated every question will be charge $4. If they are charging, they should make it clear that every question is charge $4 and got how many question. There is no term and
              condition stated. If there is, I should have click on it and nothing pop up. I remember wondering how to get pass the screen and look for button to close the screen, but it cannot be closed.
              I am forced to enter phone number to get to the next screen.
              For god’s sake, who is so stupid to entered into a contest to pay $40 and expected to win or not win a phone?! It’s not a winning a condo!
              Alamak! Even NKF, need to pay $5 or $10 to enter charity draws.
              I entered my sister phone number and received the question immediately in my handphone as it is registered under my sister name.
              I did not give any answer, thinking that i am not going to be charged. Then the next question come and said enter end to end. which I did.
              I still get billed for $8 and called in M1 that I am not going to pay the third party, paid M1 only.
              Called Sysybase and get through. A girl pick up the phone and offer to wave $4 off the bill provide that i agree with the arrangement (not go to case, of course) and I asked for the term and condition published in their website to be given to me. (To give to police as evidence on how they do business)
              Today, call them again, the same girl pick up the phone claiming that i did not called them yestersday. Then I said ” Am I talking to a ghost yestersday! Told them if they did not send me the website and my transaction to view, I would definetely go to the police.
              Of course, I will definely go to the police today and lodge a cheating case against sybase.
              I would advise those being conned to make a police report to prevent other people being conned too. Dun’t paid any money to them.
              Call up your phone operator and told them you are not going to pay the bill if you did not send in any answer at all.
              At most, let the company sue me for $8 as they would not do cause they are the cheats.
              Go and make phone report. Dun’t need to pay cheat at all.
            13. Sherry Teo lay teen 
              Hi,
              I am being direct to CASE after making a police report. Do not delete away the email they send to as they need them as evidence.
              The police said the if CASE asked them to further investigate, they would step in.
              Alas! Bad luck to come across this company.
              Wish justice will come one day. For those who get conned, will understand how I feel.
            14. Sherry Teo lay teen 
              Hi, CASE officer said can lodge complaint to IDA as they have the right to close down the company as they regulate them and do other things.
              Go to : http://www.ida.gov.sg and do accordingly.
              I told case that i am not claiming the money, just to complaint.
              Anyone who see this website and have been sabo, can go to thehttp://www.ida.gov.sg to make known your cause.
              Please note that Sybase I refering to is SybaseXXX where XXX represent digits number.
              Sybase is another Oracle company, which I am not refering to above.
              That’s all folk. If really want to close down the company or made public awareness, go to ida.
              I hope it helps.
            15. Hi Sherry,
              I admire your actions beyond just words.
              Do let everyone here know the email address and person to attention the complaints to.
              Keep it up and let us each defend our consumer rights.
              Cheers,
              Eakky
            16. Sherry Teo lay teen 
              Hi,
              Try to contact the Sybase XXX Company first to let them refund your money. If they still claim $4 when U did not send in any answer at all or
              If U did not enter your handphone number yourself, tell them so. However the term and conditions must not be in the webpage stating that the question is paid.
              They should not charged $4. Honestly, I feel that they should apologize and wave off $4 and even paid us back the sms that they send to us. 2 sms (20 cent, if I am not wrong.) to the telecom company if they are considerate.
              The police told me that if someone entered your handphone number instead of you, then
              it is cheating case. Go and file a report if u are sure it is not any of your friends or families members entering it in the hope that you win the prize.
              The system that sybase used is really dun’t know what to say. They got the handphone number only and did not verify the message they send to is really the owner of the handphone. No message to end the question on the first question.
              No ” whether you want to continue with the game and get charged altogether $40 (10 question).”
              Go to Case to claim money if you want money back only.
              Go to IDA to complaint if dun’t want money.
              Base on your own case, if you feel it is not fair, then email to :IDA Info [Info@ida.gov.sg]
              stating your case.
              The person who attend to my complaint is : Kimmi Goh.
              IDA has the power to de-register or regulate the companies in Telecom industry.
              I think it’s fair for me to notify them to check them out. What action they do is up to them.
              Honestly, cannot image if one day, a person enter all the handphone number of all Singaporean,
              what would happen? Would we be still billed,
              including the VIPS ?!
              Of course, dun’t ever do this. Cause it is a crime.
              Can go to jail. Just to mention the above, to identify what a possible danger it poses to evey Singaporean.
              Hope that it would help u all.
            17. Anyone filed such stupid thing with CASE and is the outcome known so far??
              I kena connned by $40! I didn’t even know i was charged until i saw the bill myself. All the while i thought it’s just a spam and never bother reading the sms! I called the company, they insisted that I subscribed to the quiz and that’s y i was charged. I said i’ll go to police and CASE if they dun refund me for this “single way” transactions. u know wat the gal responded? “fine, go ahead.” that showed that the company is immune to the complaints!
              I called up starhub the 2nd time and said that i wanted to cancel the giro payment. i’m not going to pay that charges until it’s settled satisfactorily. On their end, they’ll check with sybase and come back to me with the outcome. Regardless of wat outcome it’s gonna be, even it’s not favourable to me, i’m not paying that charges.
              if there’s precedence that singtel can waive the charges, y starhub can’t do that? as the operator, they didn’t not act in the best interest of its clients. when this case has been going wild for quite some time, they’re aware of such complaints, they should take immediate actions! apparently they’re not doing anything but sitting down there to earn the commission!!
              this sybase is cheating. if it’s a transaction, where’s the other party’s confirmation?? i traced back to the first sms they sent me: “stay subscribed to trivia & play for cool prizes! blah blah blah…. ” Shouldnt they put it in this way that: “You’ve subscribed to trivia & play for cool prizes! ” which will really alert the reader of the sms???
            18. Hi All,
              I also one of the victim whose been conned by this website and whose I have not check my bill details cos I subcript to online billing and I just paid every month, until yesterday I was so shock to read that I have been billing $44 for this stupid website for July billing and also $22 for the last 2 months billed by M1 on this third party operator for not even aware that all this nonsense quetions cost me $4 per sms even you not bother to answer.
              I agreed to Veela if the telecom operator is not even bother and not helping on this issue for the customer then how could we trust them. I am also wondering where do this stupid company get all our mobile number from? Is either they get our number from our telecom operator who selling them and earn commission on every charges or someone in the telecom company making some extra income on selling our number to them.
              I definately going to log a police report and also log to CASE toward this company.
            19. Hi all,
              I am equally disgusted by these kind of low down underhand tactics to swindle innocent parties. I have just sent an email to IDA today, perhaps you guys out there should do like wise and put pressure of IDA to control such unscrupulous people. The least this Sybase can do is to give you Y/N to subscripe when they send in the 1st sms. But I guess they must have planned it such that most will be caught off guard.
              Here is my email to IDA:
              http://eakky.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/sms-to-winrather-it-is-to-get-conned/
              Dear Sir/Madam,
              If you go to the thread above you will notice how many net savvy guys out
              there were ‘conned’ by the Sybase365.
              As for myself, it was my wife (who only goes to her webbase email) who was
              ‘conned’ into believing that she ‘won an i-Phone’ by just answering 2 questions.
              Obviously the terms and conditions were there but how to stop an euphoric mind
              from grabing the chance “of winning an iPhone” from giving off her Name (Mrs Tan)
              and handphone (9xxxxxxx) to the next requested pop-up screen.
              Next thing she heard was her SMS ring tone. In came an sms message, when
              she saw that a S$4 charge to be levied she just wanted to cancel it. Unfortunately
              she hit the wrong button and sent off an unanswered reply. Subsequently she
              received more SMS which she did not reply (I was told that there were 3 more
              premium messages sent). I was told that even without replying to the 3 premium sms
              I would still be charged S$4.00 for each of the sms.
              May I ask is this the type of service customers must put up with? Can a
              service/content provider ‘throw’ its services upon you without your choice of rejecting?
              I am also frustrated that the business of telcos have been diluted to such dispicable level.
              Collobrating (in collecting monetary fees) with content providers with NO VALUED ADDED
              SERVICES!
              I do not know how many children, housewives and innocent parties got into such time wasting
              forrays.
              I myself have not encountered this pop-up screen, maybe you can send me a
              link where I can check for myself how this thing works.
              I hope IDA does take this kind of under hand tactic to collect subscription
              fee from the public seriously.
              Yours sincerely
              Alan Tan
              p/s 1, I have called Starhub – they are waiting from Sybase365 email reply, no news so far.
              2. I called Sybase365, took me ages to get in touch with the hotline personel, nothing
              can be drawn from her except I have to bear the S$16.00 charges.
              3. Spoke to Shela of IDA, encourage me to write to IDA and it will look into the matter with both
              (Starhub and Sybase365)
              4. Called CASE, I will have to pay S$10.00 fee for them to write a letter to Sybase365, no guarantee
              that I can get off the S$16.00 charges.
              5. Was told that such lucky draw needed police permit, but I have not call SPF yet.
            20. i have also been cheated by sybase365. i was not aware of what ‘$4 charged’ meant until recently where my bill had gone up to a total of $44. I am not going to pay the $44 and i will demand for a refund of previous charges. DAMN sybase.
            21. Sherry Teo 
              Hi,
              I had put my case to IDA but have been advised to be careful.
              U all can see the corresponse below.
              Now I am not even sure whether I was wrong or not. I really cannot remember I saw the term and conditions in my email.. but my memory is not that good. I just let the matter rest.
              Hope that other who got unpleasant experience will not be too angry.
              ~Best regards,
              Sherry Teo.
              ——————————————————-
              Dear Ms Teo,
              We refer to your email dated 18 July 2008.
              We have noted your complaint and have sought clarification from Sybase365 Pte Ltd. We understand from Sybase365 that you had keyed in your mobile number to request for their quiz services via their Internet advertisement found athttp://www.wixawin.com/sg/ads/iphone.aspx. We have looked at the web page and note that the prices, terms and conditions of Sybase365’s service are stated at the bottom of the advertisement. The specific circumstances under which end users of the service will receive each SMS question are also stated in the terms and conditions of the service.
              We have also checked the SMS log of Sybase365 to see if they had charged you for a service that you did not subscribe to. We are attaching a copy of log below for your reference. The log show that after receiving your mobile number via their website, Sybase365 had sent an SMS to your mobile number to confirm if you would like to enter the quiz. In its confirmation SMS, Sybase had stated that the contest was a premium service and there was charge of $4 per quiz question, and customers had to reply by texting the keyword “IPHONE” to the short code “72233” to confirm their entry into the quiz. We note that a confirmation SMS containing the “IPHONE” keyword had indeed been received from your mobile number. It was only after Sybase365 received this confirmation that it proceeded to activate the service for you and to charge you accordingly for it. Therefore, in view of our investigation, we have no reason to believe that Sybase365 had made a mistake in charging you for the quiz service.
              We would like to explain the billing process for premium rate services. For normal SMS messages, only the sending party needs to pay for sending the SMS message; the receiving party does not pay for receiving it. However, for certain value-added services, such as SMS information services (e.g. financial and sports news), ringtone downloads or SMS chat services, the receiving party might be billed by the Premium Rate Service Provider (PRSP) for having the information sent to their mobile phone. In such cases, the mobile service provider will usually bill the receiving party on behalf of the PRSP. PRSPs provide various channels for consumers to purchase or subscribe to their premium rate services. For example, the consumer could send a keyword to the PRSP’s short code hrough computers accessing Internet websites, or mobile phones accessing mobile operators’ portals (such as SingTel Mobile’s E-Ideas portal or M1’s Mi-World portal).
              To protect consumers from being wrongfully charged for unsolicited premium rate services, or being misled by advertisements on premium rate services, IDA introduced a Code of Practice for Provision of Premium Rate Services last year. The Code imposes regulatory requirements on PRSPs. For example, PRSPs must disclose beforehand to consumers price and non-price terms of the services that they are subscribing to. This will allow consumers to make informed choices when choosing PRSPs. Also, IDA requires the PRSPs to publish the information in a manner that is readily available, current and easy to understand. At no time are PRSPs allowed to charge customers for unsolicited services.
              We would like to take this opportunity to remind and advise consumers to be careful of the services they subscribe to, and to carefully read the service terms and conditions before making any purchases. If consumers are unclear of the details of the service, it would be best if they contacted the service provider to seek clarification before taking up the service. We hope this clarifies and addresses your concerns.
              Logtime Dir Keyword Message Cellular Operator Rate
              6/24/2008 18:28 out SG-72233-STOP 72233: We received your cancellation message. You will be unsubscribed within a few minutes. 96986876 52503 0
              6/24/2008 18:28 in SG-72233-STOP stop 96986876 52503 0
              6/24/2008 14:06 out SG-72233-IPHONE TRIVIA: play 4 cool prizes! Nxt round starts tomorrow. NB: From July 1 subscription changed to 3qs/wk. $4/q. Info:wixawin.com/65713999. To end txt stop to 72233 96986876 52503 0
              6/18/2008 14:05 out SG-72233-IPHONE Play for Game Boy Advance + 2 games! Q1: Which tennis player won the ’08 French Open? A: Rafael Nadal or B: Andre Agassi. Txt NOW A or NOW B to 72233! $4 charge 96986876 52503 400
              6/17/2008 20:00 out SG-72233-IPHONE Good luck with winning the iPhone! 1st Q. Who is the co-founder of Apple? A: Bill Gates or B: Steve Jobs. Text IPHONE A or IPHONE B to 72233! S$4 charged 96986876 52503 400
              6/17/2008 20:00 out SG-72233-IPHONE Welcome to trivia! It’s ur chance to win cool prizes. Info: http://www.wixawin.com / 6571 3999, subscription service max 10qs/month, $4/q, 2 end text stop to 72233. 96986876 52503 0
              6/17/2008 20:00 in SG-72233-IPHONE Iphone 96986876 52503 0
              6/17/2008 19:57 out SG-72233-JM0 Please text IPHONE to 72233 to confirm your entry. Join now and have a chance to win an Apple iPhone! Premium service, $4/q. Info: wixawin.com / 6571 3999 96986876 52501 0
              Best Regards,
              Kimmi Goh
              IDA Corporate Helpdesk
              8 Temasek Boulevard, #14-00, Suntec Tower Three, Singapore 038988 :: Tel: +65 6211 0888 :: Fax: +65 6211 2222
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              —– Forwarded by IDA Info/IDA/SINGOV on 08/08/2008 04:06 PM —–
              18 Jul, 2008 02:41 PM
              To IDA Info/IDA/SINGOV@SINGOV
              cc
              Subject RE: Log no: 38173 – Complaints against Sysbase365 – Tmg Services.
              Hi,
              I want to lodge a complaint against Sybase365 – TMG Services. I am not sure whether I am the first one to do so or not.
              Other customers either from M1, Singtel might just pay the bill and suffer in silence.
              I am one of M1 customer. My handphone is registered under my sister’s name.
              While online in internet, Sybase365 – TMG Services promotion website for winning a ipod/iphone (I cannot remember what it is as I am not interested
              In the product at all) pop up of the screen and interfere with what I am doing.
              As I am not interested, I come out out of the page. Next I go in again, soon after , the website pop up again, this time, I cannot close the webpage.
              I look through the webpage to find out what it is, it is asking one to enter handphone number to win an ipod/iphone.
              Then I look at the term and condition.. It is small in printed. Click on the term and conditions, no url or new website page specifying the term and condition
              Comes up.
              As I really want to go to the next page, with no interest in the iphone or ipod or whatever, I think keying in my handphone number is only providing
              Them information to access me for promoting their products or services or just to let them contact me when I win the price.
              Alas! Who would have thought, immediately I received an sms stating that a question and a few answer to choose from. $4.
              Just like that. I thought that if I send in my answer, I would be charged $4. Therefore I did not and thought all ends.
              However, I received another sms a few days/weeks later ( I am too busy to notice the time ) which tell me sms end to end the contest, which I did.
              At the end of the month, I received M1’s bill stating that I have to pay Valued Added Services Provider – Sybase365 – Tmg Services.
              I called up M1 and is being directed to call Sybase365 – Tmg Services directly.
              I called up the staff and she said that it is being charged for 2 questions that they send to me. I told them that I did not take part in the contest
              at all, I did not send in my answer. Why am I paying for some services that I did not want or dun’t need to pay at all?
              The staff said that she would wave $4 off the bill, that is I have to pay $4 instead. I told her that I would lodge complaint to Case.
              I asked her how come, there is no specification that $4 will be charged for every question asked in the web page?
              I entered my handphone number, thinking that it is a harmless and free contest. If the contest is charged, they should write in bold and big
              in the webpage and let the consumer know.
              Later she told me that there are 10 questions altogether, and each cost $4. Who in the right mind would paid $40 to enter a contest for ipod/iphone.
              Who expect to answer correct 10 questions, paid $40 to win or not to win a ipod/iphone.
              Even one need to pay $5 or $10 to enter into charity contest for Condo in NKF’s charity TV shows.
              Sybase365 is really too much to mislead the consumers to enter phone number, thinking it is a free contract and charge us straight away for questions they send to us.
              They did not email me the term and conditions which the service staff said they had did. I want them to send me the term and conditions, URL and my transactions
              Records which they claimed they have. Till now.,. They did not send me any.
              I really want to vomit blood when I speak to the staff at Sybase365 – TMG services.
              I called the next day, and the staff who picked up the call claimed that based on company record, I did not called at all when I request again for the term and
              Conditions which they claim they have put in the website and my transactions record.
              Later she change her words when I said that ” am I speaking to a ghost yestersday then”. She later admit that I called the day before twice and said that her
              Co-worker had already send them in yestersday. But it is almost one and a half day already and there is nothing in my email.
              She asked for my email again and I give her both yahoo and hotmail which she said she forward the email to me.
              I wait and go to both – yahoo and hotmail accounts. Nothing received and feedback to her.
              Then she asked for my company fax number which I did not give as I know she is taking me for a fool.
              I have lodge a police report against them and is advised to go to CASE.
              CASE direct me to IDA as I am not claiming any money. Just to make the government aware what is happening to Mobile phone consumers in Sinapore.
              I have spoken to M1 service staff and is told that there are other cases with Sybase365 – TMG services.
              Although M1 said that they would paid for me as I insisted on not paying as I am conned to their services and I did not receive any really services from Sybase365
              but anger and upsets.
              Really pissed off that such company can do business this way and get away with it, while other consumers who felt conned is suffering in silence.
              Although I did not suffer losses, but M1 will suffer losses if It pay for me out of goodwill. But the money losses is not fair to its shareholders.
              I hope IDA would take approriate action and do justice in this case. It is not right to charge a person when one did not send in answer and I am being mislead into it.
              If I am the only one, I might not bring this matter up to the authority.
              But as consumers of M1, SingTel (StarHub, not sure) got conned as they had claimed, I cannot just do nothing and let other fellow Singaporean suffers, although
              It is a small amount. Others might suffer bigger losses.
              M1 had said that they would pay for me as it is a small amount, but if it is a big amount, I have to settle with the company myself.
              I pitied those that have huge bills to pay.
              I hope that the authority will looked into it and do the public a service by either issuing a warning to their ways of conduction business or
              de-registered them if the authority feel it should be so.
              I would like to give you my handphone number to contact me. But after knowing Sybase365 ways of doing business, I am very carefully about disclosing
              My handphone number to anyone anymore cause I cannot trust anyone already.
              ~ Thanks and Best regards,
              Sherry Teo Lay Teen
            22. Dear All,
              All my life (now age 62) never believe “NOTHING IS FOR FREE” – Cantonese saying “NO FROGS ANYHOW JUMP ON THE ROAD SIDE”, Nigera Con with Billions I also ignored.
              Never check my M1 Mobile Phone Statement, as my daughter paying for my bill. On August daughter financially have money problem, so went to settle S$332.76 and noticed Value Added Services for $44.00 for August, $28.00 for July and $8.00 for June. Contacted M1 and question what is the service all about and ask whether have I subscripted to such service and reply is NO.
              What the Hell do this services come about and now unable to contact Sybase365 since 18 August and left them message to contact me but no response.
              Go ahead and take necessary action against such con company, as me making a Police Report also to case
            23. Yes, the ugly insidious talons of Sybase 365 (it even sounds evil don’t you think- like the baddies in Battlestar Galactica) are reaching into the wallets of unsuspecting Aussies as well. This time facilitated by none other than Facebook, and my 13 year old daughter unfortunately fell for their tricks when it came up innocently disguised as a competition on Facebook. Surely this company should be brought down and exposed- Someone is getting very rich if this many of us are falling for it!
            24. It seems that this co. has a neverending abyss of complaints from consumers who have been hoodwinked into something they never wanted.
              Yes they were keen on the prize, or curious about the competition. But no, they did not want to subscribe to some lame excuse to overcharge users for useless sms trivia.
              I wonder how business owners like this live with continually ripping off their customers (unwilling ones at that).
              As the saying goes, caveat emptor (buyer beware)!
            25. Good news- my phone company ‘3’ refunded the money based on the fact that the advert was deliberately misleading and Sybase are uncontactable (they haven’t returned any calls). For Aussies your best bet is to call the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman- get a reference number- and go back to your mobile service provider for a refund… still it seems Sybase is getting away with it- why should 3 have to pay?
            26. I chalked up $112 worth of so-called ‘value added services’ bills over the past 3 months for receving questions that I did not answer – quizes that I did not participate. This is totally absurd. I have a good mind to go personally to Sybase365 office and take up the matter with them. We cannot go legal with the company because they have all the evidence. We have to make demands on grounds of business mal-practice and misrepresentation. When they mentioned $4 per question, I take it to mean that it is chargeable only if you respond. They should have made it clear that it is “$4 per question; even if you don’t respond”. But if they do that, they know full well that customers will terminate the service in a blink. Therefore, they mislead.
              I am a member of an international hotel and resort chain. The membership costs me $500+ per year. With it, I get to stay at their chain of hotels at discounted rates – but they charge only when I stay, not when I don’t stay. This is very fundamental business rule and ethics; but I guess they lack the latter. I am definitely going all out to demand for a full refund of my money.
            27. I’m a victim also, just called M1 hoping they will waive off the charges but apparently they said have to depend whether Sybasexxx can waive it in the first place. Really disappointed with M1, have been a long-time customer with them.
              Will try to call the company early in the morning tml.
              Heard from other sites, to terminate have to send them a STOP sms and this will incur additional charges…is that true? Is there other way?
            28. Hey Wendy,
              Do send them the STOP sms to cut the service and stop your charges from accumulating. No additional charges incurred.
              I did that when I received the first $4 sms. So in the end all I was charged was $4 after I send the STOP. At least my losses was minimal.
            29. Hi all.
              It only takes one sms and that’s it. “curiousity killed the cat” as they say.
              Reality check:
              You all think it’s that easy to win a MacBook or iPhone? Just answer a quiz and that’s it? Pshh.
              Get real. The best you all could do, you want a Macbook? you save, then you buy. Haha
            30. Hi all,
              i also got conned. Just found out today. This company really too much. They just sit down and earn money for nothing. Why not we gather together and make a complaint to the newspaper?
              Any keen pls send me email at adrianlkz@yahoo.com
            31. Hi Adrian
              your wish got answered. A journalist left her contact on my blog:
              Hi there, I’m a journalist with SPH mypaper, and I’m actually doing a story on this hp scam. Hopefully you can get back to me and share abit more on your story? You can email me, or call me at 6319 5257. Thanks alot! If you have any friends who had the same experience and wish to share with me their thoughts as well, feel free to ask them to contact me. =)
              regards
              Joy
              joyfang@sph.com.sg
            32. pls do visit my blog for a solution to this matter
              siva
            33. i had the same problem too… but resolved the matter with my MTO and sybase…. I was suppose to pay more than $120… in the end, I paid $0.00 =) visit my blog for the details…
            34. thanks for sharing ….
            35. Big Con job indeed…
              I found myself doing / buying /eating things that i told myself never to.
              Now, i maintain a “never list” to remind myself.
              It includes where/what not to eat, brands not to support, how to react to situations (e.g. someone cutting your queue), marketing calls, etc.
              It includes lessons from others as well.
              Use AdBlock Plus and FlashBlock of firefox to stop all ads (good or bad).
              You will have more peace!
            36. Guess why Spain loses the first match in world cup 2010?
              Guess why Germany win the first and loses the second match?
              Guess why the telecom operators allowed such things.
              It doesn’t take much intelligence to know why.
            37. Its 2011 and I just noticed I have been billed the last 3 months for a service that I did not unsubscribe to?!?!?! its itemised as Ericsson Telecommunications – Tmg services and M1 lists the company’s number as 8001012164 and says to contact the company for enquiries. I have been charged $96 singapore dollars for the last 3 months. Looks like what you are talking about – Sybase365 – has a new mask. I will have to make a complaint to CASE. Please check your bills again!!! This is unethical!
            38. Fucking i did pay 3moths :(
            39. Hi,
              I am a M1 user and i encounter the same thing here in my bill.
              I saw the solution is to send “STOP” to 72233
              I did that, and i received an reply SMS: “Regarding your opt-out request, no active subscriptions were found. If you are taking part in one of our non-subscription services, no further action is required”
              Did you guys receive the same reply? Does this reply means the services has already been stop?
            40. Premium downloads. Mobile In Motion Pte ltd 67256565
              i called starhub four times in a month and was given different answers
              two said the service has been barred and two said need to check with 3rd party…
              fed up with starhub. i never even click on anytime anywhere.. and called the company… some foreigner picked up and mumbled marbles…
              ain’t paying starhub $48 and guess what…another sms got in.. jeez
            41. Hey how do i unsubscribe this thing? Cause it charges me 84sgd fr 21 msg already just bcos of the sms they’ve send me. Help me?

              • Maia Tae
                Being charged $48 for services i didnt even activate. That's Daylight Robbery. I called them up and they insisted that i was the one who activated it. So i asked for the proof of the downloads to be emailed to me and it shows that sms were sent from them. Complained to the service provider and to ATLC to block all premium services.

                • Seah Li-wei ·  Top Commenter · Simei, Singapore
                  I got a $25 charge too. When I retraced to find out where my phone was at at the time I "subscribed", I was disappointed to find out that it was at irepair. My mistake for not taking out the SIM card.

                  • Rosely Abdul Jalil · Manufacturing Specialist at UTAC Group
                    I just give a call to my service provider and explained to her. She agreed to waive my $72. And requested me not reply sms or give details abt myself if Im not sure this sms come from.....

                    • Rosely Abdul Jalil · Manufacturing Specialist at UTAC Group
                      Today I received my phone bill. I was shock cause I need to this ATLC for $72. Anyone have any experience on what to do?

                      • Aslin Rahmad · Works at Singapore International Chamber of Commerce
                        Huh I having same problem too.. Its appear in my current bill dated 14 may 2014. I was charged $24. What must I do now?

                        • Nur Ain Othman ·  · Singapore
                          Don't pay yet. Go and callyour mobile subscribers and tell them about it. Insist that you won't pay because u never use it. Do not lose a battle without a fight! hahahaha

                      • Lee Agnes
                        Hi all, I have the same prob and I have emailed IDA and SPF for advice. I was told to proceed to make a police report so that they can advise me. IDA has replied to my email and will follow up. As for my case, I didn't even reply to any such SMS. Please report it to IDA and hopefully that they can take action against such act! We need more victims to come forward to report.

                        • Ben Wong · Anderson Junior College
                          I also had this bad experience. A message came and ask me to subscribe to 146079193-which I did without checking the source.

                          lesson learnt: do not subscribe to unknown apps. Make sure you check the terms and cons before downloading the app.

                          • Ian FarEast BubbleCute ·  ·  Top Commenter
                            who believed the local telco did not make a profit out of this raise your hands now!

                            • Ainul Adilah
                              I'm a victim too. I was charged $25 for 5 times weekly in march which sum up to $125 for similar case. I'm gg to call sing tel today.How could Sing tel let this happen since there are so many complain???

                              • Ainul Adilah
                                Can anybody advise me what i should do now? Thanks.

                                • Kaliyaperumal Cholan · Kumaraguru College of Technology, Coimbatore
                                  I was charged $24 two timestimes and I don't have any idea that downloading. I call star hub they ask me to check with ALTC .

                                  • Jennifer Kong · Works at Unification Church
                                    I am a victim too. I was charged a $75. I don't have any idea that I subscribed anything from them and they keep sending sms until I was so annoyed and send back a "STOP" to unsubscribe but 3 weeks had already passed. Now then I realized I was charged a $25/week. When I checked with ALTC they said I agreed to the terms & conditions online. If I did agree to anything online or send out a reply it might be just to find out more information. They should reply back with affirmation of the charges. Moreover, who will go read pages and pages of such T & C? This is a very misleading marketing scheme. Luckily Singtel provides me a waiver of 50% and blocked future "content & services" item on my mobile number. Treat it as paying a price to learn a lesson:{

                                    • Malik Aviram Vijh ·  ·  Top Commenter · UA Lead at LiveOps
                                      Same problem here. I called Singtel and asked them to waive it off and ensure it does not happen again or I will not pay any bill and take them to court. They've waived it off this time but based on the comments below, I have to find a fool proof way to ensure this doesn't happen.

                                      Update: You can request your operator to block 'premium content services' on your mobile to prevent any sort of automatic responses scamming you. Just did that with Singtel.

                                      • Axebrandoil Rosaxe · Singapore
                                        bloddy hell!!! my daughter also being scam!!! im going to call them!!!

                                        • Lien Jian Yao ·  Top Commenter · Saint Andrew's Secondary School
                                          Well the Telco allowed this to happen so they should be held accountable.

                                          • Tan Joanne
                                            I think I'm the worse! I jus received my jan bill and was charged $95 for nothing!! Singtel claimed that they can only help me offset 50 % (meaning i still have to pay $ 47.50) and advised me to sign in the barring plan.
                                            What the hell it is!! Plan to report to Police but wonder they will keen on handling the case??

                                            • Cat P P Tan · Serangoon Secondary School
                                              I also got charged $25 in my dec bill. It showed I subscribe on 13 Dec n I check my sms...there r no such msg...going to call n complain tmr....

                                            • Noor Salim
                                              omg!!..i just received the same stuff charging me $25 and i cannot recall making any sms neither do i subscribe anything from them.

                                              • Adele Wee ·  · Works at SMTOWN
                                                Dear Jen, I am also a victim of this SCAM. I am challenge Singtel to sue me and I refuse to pay.

                                                • Ajmal Siraj ·  · University of Bradford (MDIS)
                                                  Hope this helps:
                                                  http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/ida/apps/fcd_faqmain.aspx?qst=2fN7e274RAp%2bbUzLdEL%2fmCxs7iwcgv8gv2atNDOvsLCSU%2bp2UvVT%2bCzI8Q81ufumu5ZHJa4HOayQzzQcC80EryvKn8f8fhpfd%2f91tvKwFqlvaf5sgGoCySgEE9ZGnvMTMLcuE7%2bK9NK8RKCQjB11QkSp%2bhWOvqmF76g%2bm3SyRBfOPl0JiRTeCA1GcqBXLOWJJ8%2b2V48DvzxuOLONK%2fE2wuE6z8vhaMMVDqEBedm8z99599K%2brJJk8w%3d%3d

                                                  And this:

                                                  http://www.ida.gov.sg/Individuals-and-Community/Infocomm-You/Infocomm-Regulation-For-Consumers/Premium-Rate-Services

                                                  Share to increase awareness.

                                                  • Jacky Ng ·  · SIM University
                                                    i'm a M1 user, I had this also have this happened to me on oct.

                                                    • 司馬平 ·  ·  Top Commenter · 156 followers
                                                      SSingTel and Starhub beloned to same famiLee ---- TemaSuck Holdings? (WherevM1 is not).

                                                      • Kenny Leong ·  · 阿彌陀佛
                                                        我女儿的电话账单也是有同样的问题。我太太打去at-atlc的公司问也问不到什么。最后说要报警该公司才肯删除$50.4....

                                                      • Yue Wang · Nanyang Technological University
                                                        I think the correct question shall be: why such a scheme can even exist? After so many months????!!!! Where is the jurisdiction??